Hate rappers – social menaces or genuine entertainers?

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No doubt millions of fans around the world were overjoyed when Eminem’s first album in four years was released on May 15 this year.

But no doubt there were some who did not share in the joy, especially parents concerned about any influence the controversial rap artist might have upon children.

And with the release of his new album, I feel that now is an opportune time to talk about whether hate rappers like Eminem represent a legitimate part of the music industry or an aspect of the entertainment business which society would be better off without.

 
About Eminem and Hate Rappers
(Warning: Videos referened in this section contain course language and disturbing images)

‘Hate rappers’ is the term which I will use, for want of a better term, to describe those rap artists whose songs are full of lyrics which may encourage violence, alcohol or drug abuse, or other forms of criminal or anti-social behavior, or which promote such behavior  as ‘cool’ in any way.

Eminem represents a prime example. For the benefit of those who are not familiar with his lyrics, some of his earlier works featured:

• a man who is encouraged to shoot his wife and the man with whom his wife was caught cheating (refer Guilty Conscience);
• a psychotic fan who ties his pregnant girlfriend to the back seat of his car whilst driving the vehicle off a freeway bridge (refer Stan);
• the rapper himself stating that he wished his own mother would ‘burn in h***’ (refer Cleaning out my closet
• a song which portrays drug use not only as ‘cool,’ but as an experience which is second to none (refer Purple Pills).

 
Two sides to the story
From a business perspective, the reasons behind the popularity of Eminem and other hate rappers are not difficult to understand.

In addition to the natural appeal which results from their rebellious image, their lyrics stir up a considerable degree of controversy (not to mention that which is generated in their lives outside of their music), which serves to generate not only a great deal of publicity, but also a great deal of interest in their music.

What is more debatable is the question of whether or not this form of art is desirable from a social standpoint – whether their music represents merely a form of harmless entertainment or a negative influence which society could do without.

Personally, I can empathize with both points of view, and I do not really have a strong viewpoint either way on this issue.

On one hand, many people enjoy this type of music, and feel that they can relate to the feelings which are expressed in these songs. In addition, some of these artists do demonstrate a considerable degree of talent, and even though their output may be controversial at times, I personally find it somewhat pleasing to see them apply their talent toward the process of creative expression.

Moreover, the majority of young people today experience a wide range of media related input across a wide variety of mediums, and for all but the most die-hard of fans, the music of hate rappers would represent only a small percentage of their total media intake. As a result, I would have thought that any impact which these artists would have in terms of shaping attitudes and behavior would probably not be that great in the context of the broader influence of the overall media landscape.

In any case, the influence of hate rappers is probably not a great deal worse than that many violent action or horror films.

That said, I would have thought that hate rappers would have some degree of social influence, and I would not imagine that any influence which they do exert would be of a particularly positive nature. I would certainly have a considerable degree of empathy for arguments which suggest that no form of negative influence, including that of hate rappers, should be welcomed or encouraged within the modern media landscape.

 
A personal note
On a personal note, when Eminem first came out about ten years ago, I felt disgusted by his lyrics, and felt that he was an unwelcome participant in the music industry.

But over time, I became de-sensitized to his music and started to enjoy a number of his songs. I have even learnt to sing (not very well) one of his tunes at Korean singing rooms.

 
Over to you
Do you think that hate rappers represent legitimate participants within the entertainment industry, or do you think that society would be better off without them?

14 Responses to “Hate rappers – social menaces or genuine entertainers?”

  1. Brad Shorr Says:
    May 27th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    Hi Andrew, At the risk of sounding like an old crank, I have to say I think we’d be better off without them and all the desensitizing popular culture trash that is slowly but surely ruining our society. For example, last year 6 students were shot dead and 18 wounded by a former student at Northern Illinois University, about half an hour from where we live. A few of the victims lived in our town. This type of thing has become almost commonplace. This stuff is serious. Horror movies, comic strips, etc., don’t have much redeeming social value on the whole, but at least they have an element of fantasy. The music you describe is characterized by a complete lack of fantasy.

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  2. Bill Says:
    May 28th, 2009 at 2:47 am

    First time I’ve visited your blog, coming over from the link on Word Sell. Good thought process and observations. That being said, I tend to line up pretty much with Brad on this. Every generation seems to have its shock entertainment, created to both express frustration with society and entertain those who find a message in it. A somewhat milder version came from the folk music of the 60s – the Woodstock generation, if you will. The King and Kennedy assassinations, Kent State, Vietnam – I’m a Vietnam vet – and all that came with it pushed our society close to the breaking point. Somehow, we pulled back from the brink and survived. Suppose my biggest concerns are the desensitizing that seems to take place on one hand and lack of attention given to what seem to be pleas for reaction/help on the other.

  3. Jake Says:
    May 28th, 2009 at 11:50 am

    Andrew you KNOW I love hiphop hahah so this one definitely caught my eye…

    Freedom of expression, freedom of speech.. If we say Eminem is “wrong”.. where’s the line drawn? I mean there are people that could hear ONE line of a song talking about killing someone and take it to heart and maybe go kill another person… does that mean we take away all freedom of speech and do away with any kind of hatred or anything that talks about violence?

    The way I look at it is this.. We are given a freedom to choose what we want to say, what we want to hear, how we want to react etc etc.. and I don’t want those freedoms taken away from me!

    If a person wants to kill someone just because they “heard” it in a song.. I believe that person has much more of a problem than the music they listen to.

    Maybe their mind isn’t right to start with and no maybe they shouldn’t be listening to that type music, but does that mean just because they have issues, everything should be suppressed?

    Some people can’t handle alcohol, does that mean ALL alcohol should be done away with just because some can’t handle it? I hope not ;)

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  4. Andrew Says:
    May 28th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    Brad,

    You are definitely not an old crank, and I would have thought that there would be a considerable degree of justification for your viewpoint.

    I do remember hearing about the Illinois shooting – an absolutely terrible tragedy, and whilst I highly doubt that rap music is ever the sole cause of these types of tragedy, lyrics from the likes of Eminem certainly do not discourage this type of behavior

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  5. Andrew Says:
    May 28th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    Hi Bill,

    Thanks for your comment and welcome to my blog.

    I was not personally around during the Woodstock years so I am not really able to make a great deal of comment with regard to that period, but I am certainly glad that your nation was able to get through that period with its social fabric intact.

    Hate rappers do have a de-sensitizing effect, and as I noted above, Eminem in particular has had a particular de-sensitizing effect upon me personally. I could certainly see how the process of becoming de-sensitized to shock entertainment could adversely affect our perceptions with regard to the seriousness of any form of criminal or anti-social behavior.

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  6. Andrew Says:
    May 28th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    Jake,

    You raise an interesting point, and one which I was thinking about raising in the post but refrained from doing so due to post-length issues.

    Regardless of whether or not hate rappers are considered desirable, under no circumstances should they or their music be banned. Even though some limitations on free speech may appear to be well intentioned, freedom of speech is a right which should be defended at all costs, and so I would never personally support any form of attempt to place legal limitations upon the type of things which these artists can and cannot say.

    That said, that does not mean that their music necessarily represents a positive contribution toward a better society, nor does it mean that production of their type of lyrics should be encouraged.

    Notwithstanding my responses to comments from Bill and Brad with regard to the social influence of hate rappers, I think that it would be a very rare occasion that a hate song alone inspired any form of serious criminal behavior, and I take your point that even in cases where hate music does contribute to such behavior, the individuals concerned most likely have a whole host of other issues as well.

    I also think you raise a fair point in that the mere fact that a few individuals cannot control themselves would certainly not constitute sufficient justification for any form of attempt to ban Eminem and other artists like him.

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  7. Bill Says:
    May 29th, 2009 at 3:29 am

    Andrew,

    I’m not focused on the likelihood that “…a hate song alone inspired any form of serious criminal behavior…”; in fact, tend to agree with your point. Am more concerned about expressions of rage and hate in whatever form they exist being sufficient to encourage acts dangerous to others and sufficient to push an unstable person over the brink. Ten years ago the term “outrage” was used as it should be – sparingly and carefully, much like a sharp knife. Today it is the term of choice to describe a full range of emotions from discontent to maxed out anger. Its overuse is symptomatic of a malaise in our society that needs to be toned down. We tend to play too fast and loose with the words we speak.

  8. Ana Says:
    May 29th, 2009 at 3:37 am

    I’m not a fan of rap music because it bores me, but I am a big fan of all types of Goth music, which is just as heavy, dark, and, at times, very disturbing. Some blamed Goth culture for the shootings at Columbine. (I don’t.)

    There are many things that I disagree with when it comes to “free speech.” If there is any actual physical harm to a living thing, then that is wrong and should be banned. But rap, while very crass and commercial, is also an expression of ideas that are out there. Is rap generating those ideas or just reflecting pre-existing ideas and feelings that came about in other ways? (The chicken or the egg argument.) I think the latter.

    If someone does something violent, sure, maybe rap heightened that anger, but the violent nature and lack of ethics was there to begin with. I watch horror movies and love violent books, but I don’t act on that because it is not in my makeup as a person. These kinds of “arts” only lead to destructive actions when the seeds have already been planted by society, family, or maybe even genetics.

    Plus, when you ban rap, where does it end? Goth? Alternative music? Anti-war songs? Songs against the government? Songs about love? Books against the Catholic Church? Banning may be effective in the hands of some, but in the hands of others, it may be destructive and destroy freedoms. And you can’t please everyone all of the time.

    Plus, who would regulate rap music for the good of society? Government? But that would mean regulation….and we know where that discussion would go.

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  9. Mark Says:
    May 29th, 2009 at 4:13 am

    Andrew,
    You make some good points and pose some interesting questions. Artistic freedom of expression is the key issue here. The market will bare what it bares. Are these songs detrimental to those who listen to them, I would say yes to some extent, however no worse then a slasher film or some of the reality shows they have running now. Even the daily news could be said to have a negative impact/influence on people. I would never want to get to a point where we legislate speech. We must allow the consumer to dictate what is acceptable with their spend.

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  10. Fred H Schlegel Says:
    May 29th, 2009 at 4:51 am

    Interesting Art changes us, causes a reaction, makes us think. Can’t censor it if only because you don’t know when your views will be on the wrong side of the coin. I think when rap was young it tapped into an anger that was (and is) real – exposing it. Discussion has actually ensued. Who is responsible for fighting violence, racism, poverty. Who would think the logic of brutality and sexism should be glorified? Who can actually understand the words being said :) If it is in a song, movie, TV show is it ok to mimic? Tough questions that take time to work their way through society and maybe cause the rest of us to sit up and do something about the pain that is being expressed.

    That being said, bring on Benny Goodman, my ears are tired.

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  11. Andrew Says:
    May 29th, 2009 at 6:40 pm

    Bill,

    I can certainly understand your broader concerns with regards to the broader issue of de-sensitization which results from influences like hate rap (along with some other influences) with respect to serious forms of criminal or anti-social behavior, and I doubt many would dispute that these kinds of influences can be a factor behind criminal or anti-social behavior even if they are not the sole cause.

    Although I would not support any form of limitation on free speech when it comes to rap music, I am inclined to agree with your concerns with regards to the care free attitude of some of these artists in the way they talk about horrific actions such as murder, rape, armed robbery, pornography or drug abuse, none of which should be treated lightly in any way in any form of public discussion.

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  12. Andrew Says:
    May 29th, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    Hi Anna/Mark,

    I will address both of your comments together since you both seem to reflect a somewhat similar line of thought with regards to this topic.

    As I was saying to Jake, even though some may quite reasonably consider hate rap to be undesirable from a social standpoint, I would not support any form of action to legislate against it.

    No matter how well intentioned any bans on this kind of music may be, it would be difficult to ban hate rap many other forms of media, such as violent horror films, and it would be very difficult to draw a clear line as to where any form of legislated ban on this type of music should start and end.

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  13. Andrew Says:
    May 29th, 2009 at 7:07 pm

    Fred,

    I had not heard of Benny Goodman until I googled him after your mention of his name. It sounds as though the ‘king of swing’ was quite a performer and had a fair degree of influence upon the music industry of his day.

    Certainly, these rap artists are popular partly because of the way in which they tap into social frustrations which already exist, and from a social standpoint, one could argue that there has been a degree of silver lining in the cloud presented by this type of rap music in that it does tend to raise awareness about and promote discussion and debate with regards to the underlying issues reflected which this form of art.

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  14. Debty Says:
    July 27th, 2009 at 6:49 am

    Ahaan… I will follow.

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