Comments on: The importance of shareholder manners http://www.goodhonestdollar.com/the-need-for-shareholder-manners Discussion about ethical issues relating to business Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:10:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Andrew http://www.goodhonestdollar.com/the-need-for-shareholder-manners#comment-7859 Andrew Fri, 22 Jan 2010 12:01:14 +0000 http://www.goodhonestdollar.com/?p=818#comment-7859 Mark, In Clancy's case, I am sure that he himself believed what he was saying. Nonetheless, what you say about exaggerating and distorting the truth in order to be heard certainly applies in this case, and his claims represented nothing more than wild allegations completely unsupported by any factual evidence at all. Where this kind of thing happens, it does tend to detract from the value of the meeting to a certain extent. Mark,

In Clancy’s case, I am sure that he himself believed what he was saying. Nonetheless, what you say about exaggerating and distorting the truth in order to be heard certainly applies in this case, and his claims represented nothing more than wild allegations completely unsupported by any factual evidence at all.

Where this kind of thing happens, it does tend to detract from the value of the meeting to a certain extent.

]]> By: Mark http://www.goodhonestdollar.com/the-need-for-shareholder-manners#comment-7851 Mark Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:43:11 +0000 http://www.goodhonestdollar.com/?p=818#comment-7851 It is interesting how people will distort truths simply to be heard. These people are not really interested in the truth, they enjoy the attention, they enjoy "sticking it to the man". What they have to say has little to do with facts and much of what they say is second hand information that they got from a second class source. This does happen occasionally in stock holders meetings, however for the most part meetings are civil. Are the productive, hmmmm, not sure that they are. It is interesting how people will distort truths simply to be heard. These people are not really interested in the truth, they enjoy the attention, they enjoy “sticking it to the man”. What they have to say has little to do with facts and much of what they say is second hand information that they got from a second class source. This does happen occasionally in stock holders meetings, however for the most part meetings are civil. Are the productive, hmmmm, not sure that they are.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.goodhonestdollar.com/the-need-for-shareholder-manners#comment-7838 Andrew Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:39:41 +0000 http://www.goodhonestdollar.com/?p=818#comment-7838 Karen, Exactly right. Meeting participants have every right to make their views well known, but this is no excuse for poor manners of the type which Clancy exhibited in this case. Karen,

Exactly right.

Meeting participants have every right to make their views well known, but this is no excuse for poor manners of the type which Clancy exhibited in this case.

]]> By: Karen Swim http://www.goodhonestdollar.com/the-need-for-shareholder-manners#comment-7705 Karen Swim Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:33:43 +0000 http://www.goodhonestdollar.com/?p=818#comment-7705 Andrew, I agree with you that there is never reason for disrespect or unsubstantiated allegations - whether it is a shareholder meeting, open forum or private conversation. The shareholder meetings I have attended have been generally without incident but not true of other public meetings, especially if it is a particularly heated issue. Still, respect should be the order of the day. Andrew, I agree with you that there is never reason for disrespect or unsubstantiated allegations – whether it is a shareholder meeting, open forum or private conversation. The shareholder meetings I have attended have been generally without incident but not true of other public meetings, especially if it is a particularly heated issue. Still, respect should be the order of the day.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.goodhonestdollar.com/the-need-for-shareholder-manners#comment-7687 Andrew Sun, 17 Jan 2010 22:39:32 +0000 http://www.goodhonestdollar.com/?p=818#comment-7687 Fred, Fair point. In this case, Clancy's frustrations may have been misplaced, but they were real to him. His outburst did give him an opportunity to air his feelings, and I suppose in the end, there was no harm done. Still, I feel that it would be much better if shareholders (and other individuals who feel aggrieved for whatever reason) chose to express their feelings in a more constructive manner, though I do see why they may not, especially if they do not feel as though their views are being taken seriously. Fred,

Fair point.

In this case, Clancy’s frustrations may have been misplaced, but they were real to him. His outburst did give him an opportunity to air his feelings, and I suppose in the end, there was no harm done.

Still, I feel that it would be much better if shareholders (and other individuals who feel aggrieved for whatever reason) chose to express their feelings in a more constructive manner, though I do see why they may not, especially if they do not feel as though their views are being taken seriously.

]]> By: Fred H Schlegel http://www.goodhonestdollar.com/the-need-for-shareholder-manners#comment-7675 Fred H Schlegel Sat, 16 Jan 2010 18:53:20 +0000 http://www.goodhonestdollar.com/?p=818#comment-7675 There are 'Clancy's' everywhere. A key problem with an individual who chooses to express their frustration with unsubstantiated allegations is that it devalues the entire discussion. Average reaction to violence and misbehavior is to put less value on those opinions rather than more. Corporations in the U.S. often deal with these kinds of outbursts as well as more organized protests focused on environmentalism and more. I think it's a rather healthy way to air the issues. If they are false or libelous accusations then there is legal way to redress the claims (kept only for the most serious of issues however, since that only adds to the spotlight.) Self control is the more admirable methodology, but for those who feel helplessly wronged it is not always a path that heals personal wounds. There are ‘Clancy’s’ everywhere. A key problem with an individual who chooses to express their frustration with unsubstantiated allegations is that it devalues the entire discussion. Average reaction to violence and misbehavior is to put less value on those opinions rather than more.

Corporations in the U.S. often deal with these kinds of outbursts as well as more organized protests focused on environmentalism and more. I think it’s a rather healthy way to air the issues. If they are false or libelous accusations then there is legal way to redress the claims (kept only for the most serious of issues however, since that only adds to the spotlight.)

Self control is the more admirable methodology, but for those who feel helplessly wronged it is not always a path that heals personal wounds.

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