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		<title>By: drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 04:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry to hear that.

I hope that he is able to get his problems under control before too much damage is done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry to hear that.</p>
<p>I hope that he is able to get his problems under control before too much damage is done.</p>
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		<title>By: Beautiful Boobs</title>
		<link>http://www.goodhonestdollar.com/you-bet-you-lose-your-problem#comment-28942</link>
		<dc:creator>Beautiful Boobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 18:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my brother has a gambling problem and he just burned a thousand bucks in one night .:.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my brother has a gambling problem and he just burned a thousand bucks in one night .:.</p>
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		<title>By: RF Modulator :</title>
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		<dc:creator>RF Modulator :</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2010 16:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well you can say that gambling problems are very hard to cure because it is also an addiction-&#039;;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well you can say that gambling problems are very hard to cure because it is also an addiction-&#8217;;</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 22:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karen/Mark,

Based on both of your comments and those of other readers, I would certainly say that the consensus is fairly clear with respect to this topic.

This does not surprise me, and I would think that Mr. Kakavas and his lawyers will have a pretty difficult time arguing this in court.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen/Mark,</p>
<p>Based on both of your comments and those of other readers, I would certainly say that the consensus is fairly clear with respect to this topic.</p>
<p>This does not surprise me, and I would think that Mr. Kakavas and his lawyers will have a pretty difficult time arguing this in court.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 15:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fully agree, this is an unfounded and crazy lawsuit. I too have empathy for someone with a gambling problem, however the person must take responsibility for his actions.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Marks last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://tobeme.wordpress.com/2009/05/26/none-of-my-business/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;None Of My Business&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully agree, this is an unfounded and crazy lawsuit. I too have empathy for someone with a gambling problem, however the person must take responsibility for his actions.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Marks last blog post..<a href="http://tobeme.wordpress.com/2009/05/26/none-of-my-business/" rel="nofollow">None Of My Business</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Karen Swim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Swim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 13:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew, as most here have stated, it is ridiculous to hold someone else accountable for our own bad choices. This is no different than suing the fast food industry for your weight gain. I too have complete empathy for those suffering from addiction but suing the source of your addiction is rubbish.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Karen Swims last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/WordsForHire/~3/PCMWeo3GEXQ/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Authenticity, Transparency and Poetic Musings&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew, as most here have stated, it is ridiculous to hold someone else accountable for our own bad choices. This is no different than suing the fast food industry for your weight gain. I too have complete empathy for those suffering from addiction but suing the source of your addiction is rubbish.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Karen Swims last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/WordsForHire/~3/PCMWeo3GEXQ/" rel="nofollow">Authenticity, Transparency and Poetic Musings</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.goodhonestdollar.com/you-bet-you-lose-your-problem#comment-4779</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 22:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alik,

When multi-millionaires take legal action against multi-billion dollar companies, it certainly can often seem a little distanced from the realm of ordinary life, and perhaps this case would have had a little more emotional appeal if the plaintiff in question had&#039;ve been a punter of more limited financial means who had lost his or her home or family.

I guess my point here is that any person, high flier or otherwise, is responsible for their own behavior as a consumer.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alik,</p>
<p>When multi-millionaires take legal action against multi-billion dollar companies, it certainly can often seem a little distanced from the realm of ordinary life, and perhaps this case would have had a little more emotional appeal if the plaintiff in question had&#8217;ve been a punter of more limited financial means who had lost his or her home or family.</p>
<p>I guess my point here is that any person, high flier or otherwise, is responsible for their own behavior as a consumer.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Andrews last blog post..<a href="http://www.goodhonestdollar.com/you-bet-you-lose-your-problem" rel="nofollow">You bet, you lose, your problem</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Alik Levin &#124; PracticeThis.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alik Levin &#124; PracticeThis.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 15:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I once heard in a movie something like this: &quot;I love America - anyone can sue here anybody for anything.&quot;

I personally cannot care less about a millionaire suing another million for anything. It is their world and it is their fun.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Alik Levin &#124; PracticeThis.coms last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/PracticeThis/~3/FuVNJsWrR4A/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;You Are 95 And You Are Dying&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once heard in a movie something like this: &#8220;I love America &#8211; anyone can sue here anybody for anything.&#8221;</p>
<p>I personally cannot care less about a millionaire suing another million for anything. It is their world and it is their fun.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Alik Levin | PracticeThis.coms last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/PracticeThis/~3/FuVNJsWrR4A/" rel="nofollow">You Are 95 And You Are Dying</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 13:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Fred,

From what I understand, Mr. Kakavas was banned from a Sydney Casino in 2005, a ban which he claims was applicable throughout all of Australia and should have been enforced on a nationwide basis.

I am not certain about the law with regard to this issue, so am not in a position to comment upon whether or not Crown was legally obliged to refuse entry to him as a result of the Sydney ban.

Nevertheless, I still would hope that Mr. Kakavas&#039;s losses were his own legal responsibility.


Brad,

I have not seen lost in America, but it sounds interesting. I once heard one entrepreneur refer to Los Vegas as &#039;Lost Wages,&#039; sentiments which (although I of course haven&#039;t been to Los Vegas) I guess would epitomize the experiences of many.

I certainly agree with respect to your comments about the viability of the gaming industry, and whilst I will not claim that gaming is the most socially responsible industry of all time, it would most certainly be unfair on casinos if the viability of their legal operations was placed in undue jeopardy because a few punters complain about not being able to control their own personal behavior. 


Lillie,

I am sorry to hear about your terrible experience with regards to your chiropractor, and based on your description, it seems as though your claim was very fair and reasonable.

In your case, the problem was a result of someone else&#039;s behavior, and in no way does it seem from your description that any conduct or action on your part contributed to the situation in any way. Nor could you reasonably have foreseen or in any way prevented this from occurring.

With regards to the issue of accepting personal responsibility for one&#039;s own actions, I would certainly think that Mr. Kakavas could definitely learn a thing or two from those like yourself who set a wonderful example for the rest of us to

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Fred,</p>
<p>From what I understand, Mr. Kakavas was banned from a Sydney Casino in 2005, a ban which he claims was applicable throughout all of Australia and should have been enforced on a nationwide basis.</p>
<p>I am not certain about the law with regard to this issue, so am not in a position to comment upon whether or not Crown was legally obliged to refuse entry to him as a result of the Sydney ban.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, I still would hope that Mr. Kakavas&#8217;s losses were his own legal responsibility.</p>
<p>Brad,</p>
<p>I have not seen lost in America, but it sounds interesting. I once heard one entrepreneur refer to Los Vegas as &#8216;Lost Wages,&#8217; sentiments which (although I of course haven&#8217;t been to Los Vegas) I guess would epitomize the experiences of many.</p>
<p>I certainly agree with respect to your comments about the viability of the gaming industry, and whilst I will not claim that gaming is the most socially responsible industry of all time, it would most certainly be unfair on casinos if the viability of their legal operations was placed in undue jeopardy because a few punters complain about not being able to control their own personal behavior. </p>
<p>Lillie,</p>
<p>I am sorry to hear about your terrible experience with regards to your chiropractor, and based on your description, it seems as though your claim was very fair and reasonable.</p>
<p>In your case, the problem was a result of someone else&#8217;s behavior, and in no way does it seem from your description that any conduct or action on your part contributed to the situation in any way. Nor could you reasonably have foreseen or in any way prevented this from occurring.</p>
<p>With regards to the issue of accepting personal responsibility for one&#8217;s own actions, I would certainly think that Mr. Kakavas could definitely learn a thing or two from those like yourself who set a wonderful example for the rest of us to</p>
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		<title>By: Lillie Ammann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lillie Ammann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 02:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew,

This is just one step further along in the blame-somebody-else-for-my-behavior pattern that is so prevalent in the world today. It&#039;s not new—years ago my business was hit with a frivolous lawsuit—but it seems to be getting worse. And this is an extreme example of it.

Just watch the ads on TV—if you&#039;ve been hurt or a loved one died or you&#039;re not getting what you think you&#039;re entitled to, sue somebody. 

There are certainly legitimate reasons to sue. I sued the chiropractor who caused me to have a stroke. But I hesitated and did so only after a number of doctors told me he was totally irresponsible in my treatment and that his actions were the direct cause of my stroke. I didn&#039;t try to get rich off him; I just wanted to get my bills paid for my insurance co-payments and other expenses I incurred. Nothing for pain and suffering, not even compensation for lost income. 

I too am sympathetic to anyone with a gambling or any other addiction, but the casino is not their customer&#039;s keeper. Of course, they shouldn&#039;t knowingly entice someone with a problem, but they shouldn&#039;t be obligated to recognize every gambling addict and prevent them from gambling.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Lillie Ammanns last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://lillieammann.com/2009/05/22/interview-pat-james-taylor/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Interview: Pat &amp; James Taylor&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew,</p>
<p>This is just one step further along in the blame-somebody-else-for-my-behavior pattern that is so prevalent in the world today. It&#8217;s not new—years ago my business was hit with a frivolous lawsuit—but it seems to be getting worse. And this is an extreme example of it.</p>
<p>Just watch the ads on TV—if you&#8217;ve been hurt or a loved one died or you&#8217;re not getting what you think you&#8217;re entitled to, sue somebody. </p>
<p>There are certainly legitimate reasons to sue. I sued the chiropractor who caused me to have a stroke. But I hesitated and did so only after a number of doctors told me he was totally irresponsible in my treatment and that his actions were the direct cause of my stroke. I didn&#8217;t try to get rich off him; I just wanted to get my bills paid for my insurance co-payments and other expenses I incurred. Nothing for pain and suffering, not even compensation for lost income. </p>
<p>I too am sympathetic to anyone with a gambling or any other addiction, but the casino is not their customer&#8217;s keeper. Of course, they shouldn&#8217;t knowingly entice someone with a problem, but they shouldn&#8217;t be obligated to recognize every gambling addict and prevent them from gambling.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Lillie Ammanns last blog post..<a href="http://lillieammann.com/2009/05/22/interview-pat-james-taylor/" rel="nofollow">Interview: Pat &amp; James Taylor</a></em></abbr></p>
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